#13842: "Number pawns visibly on the board "
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Detalus apibūdinimas
• Jei ekrane matote kokį nors klaidos pranešimą, įklijuokite jį čia.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Prašome paaiškinti, ką norėjote padaryti, ką padarėte ir kas atsitiko
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Prašome nukopijuoti / įklijuoti tekstą, rodomą anglų kalba, o ne savo kalba. Jei turite klaidos nuotrauką (rekomenduojama padaryti), galite panaudoti Imgur.com bei nuotrauką įkelti bei čia įklijuoti nuorodą.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Ar šis tekstas yra translation system? Jei taip, ar jis buvo išverstas daugiau nei 24 valandas?
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Prašome paaiškinti siūlomą pakeitimą tiksliai ir glaustai, kad būtų kuo lengviau suprasti, ką jūs siūlote.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Kas buvo pavaizduota ekrane, tave užblokavus (juodas ekranas? Nepilna žaidimo sąsaja? Klaidos pranešimas?)
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Į kurias taisykles neatsižvelgiama BGA žaidimo versijoje
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Ar taisyklių pažeidimas matomas žaidimo atkartojime? Jeigu taip, kuris veiksmo numeris?
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Kurį žaidimo veiksmą norėjai atlikti?
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Ką reikia padaryti, kad iššauktum šį žaidimo veiksmą?
• Kas įvyko kai bandei tai padaryti (klaidos pranešimas, žaidimo būsenos pranešimas, ...)?
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Kuriuo žaidimo metu problema atsirado (koks buvo tuometinis žaidimo nurodymas)?
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Kas įvyko kai bandei atlikti žaidimo veiksmą (klaidos pranešimas, žaidimo būsenos pranešimas, ...)?
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Aprašykite rodomą problemą. Jei turite klaidos nuotrauką (rekomenduojama padaryti), galite panaudoti Imgur.com bei nuotrauką įkelti bei čia įklijuoti nuorodą.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Prašome nukopijuoti / įklijuoti tekstą, rodomą anglų kalba, o ne savo kalba. Jei turite klaidos nuotrauką (rekomenduojama padaryti), galite panaudoti Imgur.com bei nuotrauką įkelti bei čia įklijuoti nuorodą.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Ar šis tekstas yra translation system? Jei taip, ar jis buvo išverstas daugiau nei 24 valandas?
• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
• Prašome paaiškinti siūlomą pakeitimą tiksliai ir glaustai, kad būtų kuo lengviau suprasti, ką jūs siūlote.
Each pawn is numbered on the game history but we can't see these numbers on the board. By putting numbers on them it would also be clearer when they are in the waiting area, which is the same colour.• Kokia tavo naršyklė?
Google Chrome v70
Raportų istorija
it would be nice when it's also visible to us which pawn has which numbre.
The spaces are traditionally numbered from 1 to 18, starting from the starting space of each player. Each space on the board can therefore be traced by the combination of the space number and the corresponding space #1 color.
Why could it be ridiculous? Because it tries to put the cart before the horse. The problem is that the messages identify pawns, not fields. But they should. "Robo65 plays 2♣ and moves his 2nd pawn 2 fields forward" - that's not really helpful. A better message system would follow diamond's thought and number the fields from <color>-1 to <color>-18. And a message would be something like this:
"Robo65 plays 9♣ and moves a pawn from Red 3 to Red 12".
But this might get complicated when players choose their favourite color (premium feature). There are eleven of them, and I didn't check how Toc behaves when players choose unusual colors like khaki or cyan. And what would happen when Een adds three more custom colors?
So, to avoid a complex software construct just to map arbitrary colors to color names, numbering the pawns might be easier indeed.
All of that is interesting but is it really useful after all?
Toc is a game where you don't really need the history for making your move: you just need the current situation and your cards (the only real use in game for log IMO is to know which cards have been played).
When I choose what to log in a game I develop, I consider the log as a way to reconstruct the whole history of the game "just" by reading it (understand: you can replay the game with an actual board following the instructions). That is why I numbered the pawns, just to know which pawn has been played. This is only my design, the other games don't necessarely follow that guideline.
But indicating that number of the pawn is overkill I think, since it does not add any useful information, neither to make your move, nor to build the history of the game. And distinguishing the pawns inside the waiting area seems irrelevant to me...
The Chess-like notation you propose refering to the numbering of the fields would ease the read of the whole history indeed, but not the players in-game I think, because there are not necessarely aware of this system and that would introduce too much colors to be read ("Red 3? Red 12? what is this Red ? I did not move a Red pawn").
So I think in that matter, the best solution (even if not perfect) is to change nothing.
Thanks!
Woodruff
I finally changed my mind, and made an option for it (that way players who don't care can keep their usual numberless display).
Further info in this thread: boardgamearena.com/forum/posting.php?mode=post&f=222
Enjoy!
Woodruff
This is the good one: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=222&t=14978
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