Raportas • Board Game Arena

Visi raportai

riichimahjong_displayed pranešimai

#46537: "Cannot know whether discarded tile is just drawn tile or a tile from hand"

implemented: Šis pasiūlymas įgyvendintas

Apie ką šis pranešimas?

riichimahjong #193940433

Kas nutiko? Pasirinkite iš žemiau esančio sąrašo

Siūlymas: manau, kad šis pakeitimas labai pagerintų žaidimą

Kas nutiko? Pasirinkite iš žemiau esančio sąrašo

Siūlymas: manau, kad šis pakeitimas labai pagerintų žaidimą

Patikrinkite, ar jau yra pranešimas apie tą patį dalyką

Jei taip, balsuokite už šią ataskaitą. Ataskaitos su dauguma balsų pateikiamos PRIORITETU!

#	Status	Votes	Game	Type	Title	Last update

Detalus apibūdinimas

Raportų istorija

2021 Aug 13. 23:04 • ufm • Klaida dar neištirta programuotojų:

2021 Aug 16. 19:02 • GTSchemer • Klaida dar neištirta programuotojų:

As a point of comparison, FFXIV implements dark grey to indicate a drawn tile was immediately discarded: i.ytimg.com/vi/qEOJ6rP08gA/maxresdefault.jpg

Normal white tiles indicate a discard from the hand that was NOT the newly drawn tile.

Also, FFXIV uses a red coloring to indicate a discarded tile was called by another player.

2021 Aug 17. 00:40 • gilthe • Šio pasiūlymo kūrėjai dar neišanalizavo:

Thanks for the info! In physical play, you can see of course which actual tile was discarded irrespective of discard or not. At the same time, nothing enforces hand-sorting in physical play, but it would be really inconvenient to not have it online. I think Tenhou shows discard identity but does not enforce shuffling, does anybody know for suret?
I don't have a complete overview, but it seems to me that clients are not homogeneous in this regard. Iirc the Yakuza 0 implementation obscures it completely. For me it was fine to obscure completely, but a second option could be added as suggested (distinguish discard of draw from all other cases), either graphically or by notification.I don't think this is a bug, though.

2021 Aug 17. 00:40 • gilthe • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

I reclassified this from bug to suggestion.

2021 Aug 17. 00:40 • gilthe • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

I reclassified this from bug to suggestion.

2021 Aug 17. 00:47 • GTSchemer • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

I agree it is a suggestion. I do not know about Tenhou, but in general I think having a grey coloring to indicate drawn tiles being discarded would be fair and not cause problems.

It is useful because if you see several grey discards in a row, you suspect someone is mostly happy with their hand, and is looking for something in particular.

2021 Aug 17. 03:44 • ufm • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

Yakuza 0 (the one developer mentioned), tenhou, and majsoul does not shade tiles discarded just after being drawn, however they indicate it by animation.
When a player draws a tile, the tile is placed on the rightmost side. If the tile is discarded it does not shuffled in. If kept, it gets shuffled in hand and another tile is discarded from hand.
Tenhou and majsoul display the information only during the replay though. I think that's why the developer thought it shows the identity during the game (found the screenshot or video but didn't know it being a replay).
FFXIV (the one GTSchemer brought) and SEGA MJ applies shading during the game.

To sum up, it is quite inconsistent but all clients/implementations notify the information in a manner.

2021 Aug 17. 17:23 • gilthe • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

Thanks @ufm, that's helpful.

I had indeed seen both live play and replay on tenhou in video before but confused the two last night (was late ;-)

2021 Aug 17. 17:27 • GTSchemer • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

Nice summary ufm! Of those options, the shading is the most async-friendly, but I'm not against animation as well if it's not overdone. I would just be afraid I'd miss it when I load up an async game.

2021 Aug 31. 02:08 • nccc • Kūrėjai sutinka, kad tai gera idėja ir ketina prie jos dirbti:

And could u HIGHLIGHT the card just discarded as well, ty!

2021 Sep 25. 01:12 • gilthe • Šis pasiūlymas įgyvendintas:

I implemented both source-of-tile highlighting (fresh draw or already in hand) and highlighting of the current active discard. Note that if automatic pass options are set, you might not see the current active discard highlighting because the tile is no longer claimable. The source of the tile is also reported in the notifications.

2021 Sep 25. 04:10 • ufm • Šis pasiūlymas įgyvendintas:

The log works well, but source-of-tile highlighting is somehow not applied even without autopass.

Papildyti šį raportą

Pridėkite čia viską, kas atrodo svarbu, kad atkurti šią klaidą arba suprasti jūsų pasiūlymą:

Kitas stalo ID / ėjimo ID
Ar F5 išsprendė šią problemą?
Ar problemos atsirado keletą kartų? Kiekvieną kartą? Atsitiktiniu metu?
Jei turite klaidos nuotrauką (rekomenduojama padaryti), galite panaudoti Imgur.com bei nuotrauką įkelti bei čia įklijuoti nuorodą.

Atšaukti Atnaujinti raportą

#46537: "Cannot know whether discarded tile is just drawn tile or a tile from hand"

Apie ką šis pranešimas?

Kas nutiko? Pasirinkite iš žemiau esančio sąrašo

Kas nutiko? Pasirinkite iš žemiau esančio sąrašo

Patikrinkite, ar jau yra pranešimas apie tą patį dalyką

Detalus apibūdinimas

Raportų istorija

Papildyti šį raportą

Pakeisti raporto būseną į:

Pagalba

Prisidėti

Naviguoti

Sekite mus